In 2007, before the release of their third album, Love Hate Masquerade, rock band Kids In The Way
very quietly called it quits, even cancelling a headlining tour in the process. Last year, the band resurfaced, reuniting
most of its original lineup with a renewed vision and passion for music. After a show in Manheim, PA's Warehouse 54
on a cold January evening, we sat down with a few of the guys to discuss where they've been... and where they're going...
This interview took place on: 1/8/10.
Jesus freak Hideout (John DiBiase): What happened after the release of Love Hate Masquerade - there
was a quiet breakup?
There was a quiet breakup! *laughs*
JFH (John): 'Cuz you guys were planning a headlining tour?
Yeah! We were planning a tour. We were really excited about Love Hate... and were planning on really going after
it. Flicker had just been bought by Provident/Sony BMG and there were a lot of good things. But the breakup? Bottom line is...
we broke up. And really, it was just a mixture of a lot of little things and a couple big things. We really just felt
like we'd hit a wall. We were really excited about some opportunities and possibilites with some of the doors that
were opening with Flicker's partnering with Provident and the Sony BMG side of it, but it was really just a lot of
frustrations with the label and the business side. And I don't blame them at all. There were some inner band things
that sped the process along. I think when we made Love Hate Masquerade, we were frustrated with the position we
were in. That record was going to be our last hoorah and our chance to let Flicker do what they said they were going
to do with the new ammo they had with partnering with [Sony] and stuff. So we were on our way to that frustration
sort of bubbling up and something happening, but it just kind of got sped up really quick. So Love Hate...
came out and it was... Actually, I think we technically broke up before Love Hate... even came out. *laughs*
So that's kind of what happened. But it's neither here nor there now. *laughs*
JFH (John): Was it something that the label wanted you to keep quiet or was it just your own decision?
Dave: No, no. It was kind of a weird thing. I know for me personally, it was like just a major part
of my life ceased to exist. It was kind of that way for the other three guys in the band at the time. And we just kind
of let it fade. At one point we thought Flicker was going to make some sort of press release about it... It wasn't quiet
intentionally. Like, I remember thinking, "Man, I hope our fans don't think that we're just disrespecting them and we don't
care." But yeah, there was no reason for it to be so quiet, it's just the way it was.
JFH (John): Yeah, I think a lot of people were confused and didn't even know you guys
broke up for like a year afterwards!
Dave: Yeah! I still hear about it now.
JFH (John): What'd you guys do after the breakup until now?
Dave: Lots of different things. Did life. I, myself, just tried to work and have a normal life, which
is really hard. It was a really weird adjustment to go from what I was doing to something completely different at like
the snap of your fingers. I started playing with my brother who's a worship leader in our hometown at a church.
Started playing with him regularly in his band, and actually worked at that church for awhile as a worship leader.
That's basically what I did. Some of these other guys were...
Nathan Hughes: Busy.
Dave: Busy?! *laughs*
Nathan: I wasn't in the band for the third album or the second one, just the first one. I just
worked for awhile. Tried to live a normal life and try do what you're supposed to do, y'know? Gotta graduate, find
a job that makes decent money, and then do that every single day. Ugh...
JFH (John): Or go back to music.
Nathan: Or go back to music. Hmmm?
Austin Cobb: It's overrated. Not music, [work.] I think we all tried to do this. We all were like,
"OK. We're getting older, it's time to be normal people and settle down with a family and stuff." And I like to think
that, I don't know, maybe we weren't supposed to do that... yet?
JFH (John): So what inspired you to get back together? Just that?
Dave: I think that! The way we all got back together was really weird. Cuz, honestly, I hadn't
spoken to these two guys (Nathan and Austin) in a long time.
Nathan: Probably like 2 years.
Dave: Yeah. I mean, because, once they were gone from Kids In The Way, we had another two or three
years under our belt beyond that, and then when Kids In The Way broke up, I think deep down secretly, I always hoped
and dreamed and wanted to play with those guys again and kind of - as cheesy as it sounds - really felt like it would happen
at some point. But then I just got a call from Nate one day out of the blue and he was sitting down with Austin and Eric,
our drummer, and he was like, "Hey, uh, we're all sitting here and we really feel like it's just time to do this,
do you want to do it and are you in?" And I was like, "YEAH! This is really weird," I never thought that... I mean, I kind of
thought that Kids In The Way might happen again, but I never thought that it would be with the lineup that it is now.
With ALL "original members," just a mix mash of the lineups. So I called Willie right away and I was like "Hey man,
we're talking about doing this again, are you interested?" Cuz Willie moved back to Arizona after we broke up. And he
was like, "Yeah! I'll be there as soon as I can." And like a week later he was in Indianapolis and we were running through
old stuff again! *laughs*
JFH (John): So what's next? What are you guys going to be doing from here?
Dave: We're just trying to take it a step at a time. Like Austin said, we all kinda felt like it was time
to grow up and live normal lives, and I still kind of feel like whether we really want to do that fully or not, we're kind
of at that point where we don't really have an option, just cuz we're old. I mean, we would love to do music full-time
without doing anything else, but just being older and learning some of the lessons we've learned, realize that at this
point, it's probably not the wisest and the smartest thing to throw all our eggs in one basket and shove the boat off the
dock and go. So we're just taking it a step at a time. We're writing some new stuff. We are looking to put an EP out in
March. Probably just a 5-song EP just to give people sort of an idea of new direction, of what music we're making now.
And just try to play shows that are smart and make some money. I forsee that when March rolls around, cuz Austin's finishing
up school, we'll probably try to string more shows [together], y'know? Do something along the lines of a "tour," if you
will. Kind of go at it a little more aggressive with the shows. But right now, we're just writing and playing
smart shows and having fun.
JFH (John): What's the new stuff sound like?
Dave: It's really good and it's really fun and it's exciting. To me, if I were to compare it with
something of Kids In The Way, I would say it's a good mixture of our first record and Love Hate Masquerade.
A little more of the just down the middle rock n' roll. But, I don't know, Willie and I were talking the other day,
we were listening to our first record and it's like, "Wow, we haven't listened to it in a long time and a lot of
the new stuff we're writing sounds more like this than any of the other two records." It's kind of interesting, I don't
know why that is. It's definitely Kids In The Way, but we're hoping to definitely expand the horizons. We've got some pretty
crazy ideas with recording the EP and EPs to follow this year. I don't want to say too much, but...
Nathan: We don't want to make any promises...
Dave: Yeah, I don't want to build any hopes... But I think if all goes well this year,
we're going to put some music out there that's very different, give people a taste of pretty much everything that
we can do.
Nathan: It's going to be a broad spectrum. The musical landscape will be very scenic.
Dave: And that's what's cool about the situation we're in. Cuz it's like we're back at ground zero.
We don't have a label. We don't have anybody telling us "Record 10 songs that sound like this and put them on a record,"
and so for the first time we really want to exploit and explore everything that we can do. And I think we'll do that this
year and if we decide to make up a full-length record, we'll really figure out, "OK, what's this new sound going to sound
JFH (John): So you're probably going to just keep going independent?
Dave: Yeah, for now. It's kind of the smart way to go for us for the situation we're in.
Austin: Unless there are any labels out there that want to give us all of our publishing.
Dave: We're definitely not opposed to a label or anything like that, but we just learned so much
the first time around. When you're young and uneducated, a record label from Joe Blo down the street sounds like the
greatest thing in the world. But we're a little wiser this time.
Nathan: It's a little different for a band just starting out that don't have a big fanbase or markets
they can count on to get them shows and come through, but we have that, so it's like "Well, we already have this
and we have all this freedom. Let's just see how it goes for awhile."
JFH (John): Do you have any other comments or anything?
Austin: Make sure you come and see us if you can.
Nathan: Yeah! Or if you want to book us for a show.
Dave: Yeah, come and see us. And just to clear it up, I'll answer this question for ALL the people that
ask us this question all the time. At shows, people will be like, "So is this a reunion or are
you getting back together?" So, to answer the question... I don't know what to call it? It IS a reunion, but we're
back together. It's not -
JFH (John): It's not temporary.
Dave: Yeah. We're doing this to see what happens. If it lasts four years or fifteen years, whatever.
Nathan: Yeah, so check iTunes in late March! We'll have new tunes.
Kids In The Way are BACK and releasing a new EP to iTunes in March, 2010!