This interview took place on: 8/20/02.
John Warne: I read it in a history book and thought it sounded cool.
There was no inspiration for a shift. I just write what seems to come out of me, and I'm fairly
indiscriminate. The songs on the new album are just more rock/pop, but still Ace.
I was on tour in California missing my girlfriend in Minnesota. 2 hour timezone difference...
I wrote this song from the perspective of the main character Pip in Dickens' "Great Expectations." He is smitten with this girl Estella, but she doesn't doesn't return the feeling.
John: Every culture has a conception of God or a ruling deity. A spiritual force so
supernatural it inspires awe and fear in the hearts of man. The mighty spirit that evokes this kind of
experience is called the Numinous. Christianity understands this to be Yahweh, and the human incarnation
of the Numinous is His Son, Jesus Christ. This song attempts to convey a certain shrinking, an awe and
profoundness we feel when we truly encounter God on His terms, and it is a crushing and yet tender
John: My favorite on Madness is "Numinous" because it is so deeply worshipful to
me. My favorite Ace song, however, is called "Tonight" and it's on the last CD, the self-titled one.
Yeah, we were recording one night and suddenly the lights went out and aliens came and recorded a few vocal
takes. On the fourth track, "Amanda," it's one of them singing backup. Eerie.
We were a few miles from the place the fourth plane crashed, the one that didn't hit its target.
We played a show a few nights later about 45 minutes from ground zero, NYC. Apart from it being a total
tragedy, it furthered my conviction that a lot of people see America as this great evil, and I somewhat
agree. Instant gratification and immorality seem to define us as a nation, and it's time we Christians
start living as we ought to.
John: It's made us tighter, more entertaining (hopefully :)), and more cohesive as a whole.
When you spend that much time with a group of guys you realize you need to define who you are and who you
want to be as part of the group.
John: When our van caught fire and we had to put it out with Mountain Dew. It was just
lucky we had 8 24-packs on board.
John: Billy Music - Midwest Index and John Reuben - Hindsight.
John: I liked Star Wars a whole lot better since I was never really a Spider-Man guy. Yoda is the man... or... whatever he is.
John: I really like The Power of One. It's good.
John: Twiddlin's always a good time.
John: No, they're all good.
John: Be excellent to each other and party on, dudes!
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